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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2017.01.06 00:00:38 -
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blargderp wrote:Matthias Ancaladron wrote:blargderp wrote:last I checked alpha clones only got their faction's indy up to level one, so the gap between the miasmos and any other alpha accessible indy with cargo expanders isn't all that huge. I agree that it does provide another advantage to gallente alphas though. none of this would be a problem if the racial restrictions were lifted however. That's a 20-30k different though. A bestower only gets up to like 15k-20k if you fill all the low slots with expanders. Gallente gets double the ore hold without sacrificing any speed. As far as ore hauling goes that's a massive difference. 100% more ore per trip. with expanders and rigs a bestower can hold over 32km3. the miasmos at lvl1 holds 46.2km3. that's an approximate 44% (let's say 50% if you count the cargo hold with expanders and rigs as well) difference, which, while still significant, is a far cry from double capacity. if you're using an indy to scoop jet cans full of ore then you only need 27.5km3, as that is the maximum capacity of a jet can. if you're planning on hauling the ore itself you're better off reprocessing it and moving the processed materials (which are much smaller) in a standard indy with expander mods and rigs or simply selling the ore locally in system.
The trouble is a miasmos can haul the most ore in a fast AND tanky fit. No other hauler can get even close to the power of a miasmos.
Alphas are just another reason specialised haulers are ******.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
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Posted - 2017.02.23 21:14:34 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:
The best suggestion I have read was to make the specialized haulers require racial industrial 2, barring them from all Alpha access.
Simple, elegant, fair.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
3767
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Posted - 2017.02.23 23:05:24 -
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The specialised haulers can fit for tank, speed and evasion all at once without sacrificing capacity. Imo they are broken and remove choice. If i could I'd have them just deleted for everyone, not just alphas.
I believe an alpha can still get 20k ehp out of them. Though id need to double check. But putting their requirements up isn't really to do with any of that. It's just a super easy fix to what i see as whining that wouldn't even exist if we had dealt with superfluous haulers properly.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
3768
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Posted - 2017.02.24 22:51:33 -
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Just wanted to mention, the reason we have these specialised haulers is because the playerbase whined when ccp rebalanced haulers and said they were redundant and not needed any more.
If specialised haulers had a real purpose they WOULD have been spread across races. Instead they are just an after thought.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
3769
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Posted - 2017.02.25 02:46:31 -
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Jasmin Yeva wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:Just wanted to mention, the reason we have these specialised haulers is because the playerbase whined when ccp rebalanced haulers and said they were redundant and not needed any more.
If specialised haulers had a real purpose they WOULD have been spread across races. Instead they are just an after thought. All specialized haulers, except Miasmos, because it can haul ore. And everybody want to haul a good amount of ore. Perhaps there is really a need for ORE ore hauler.
The normal haulers are perfectly good for hauling ore. It only doesn't seem so because the miasmos is so stupidly broken.
I literally go round in one with warp stabs stealing from anyone who can mines (hulks and skiffs). I have even intercepted cans that are being tractored to orcas. When they bring pvp fit cruisers can they point me? No. Can they dent my tank in the few seconds before i warp? No.
At least if i had to use a traditional hauler I'd have to make a choice between tank and speed or how much i can steal in one go.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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